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Paradise, Canto VIII

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Charlemagne and the diversity of human natures

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Where we are

Dante is still in the Heaven of Venus. The blessed souls dance in a circle, and one of them comes forward to speak to him. The pause is brief, but the encounter soon slides from personal recollection into a reasoning on how divine providence guides the heavens and their influences on men.

Whom we meet

Charlemagne is the soul who presents himself to Dante. He recalls the three crowns he should have worn: Provence, southern Italy, and Sicily, lamenting the evil governance that tore them from him. After the political accusations against his brother, the voice changes tone and explains to Dante why men are born so different from one another.

What to expect

Charlemagne makes clear that providence moves the heavens, but it is nature that shapes each person’s character, and the fault lies with men, who assign social roles contrary to natural disposition. The lesson leaves open the knot between celestial destiny and human responsibility, a question that will return in the following cantos.

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Paradise · Canto VIII
Translated by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1867).
Paraphrase

The world used in its peril to believe

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That the fair Cypria delirious love

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Rayed out, in the third epicycle turning;

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Wherefore not only unto her paid honour

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Of sacrifices and of votive cry

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The ancient nations in the ancient error,

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But both Dione honoured they and Cupid,

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That as her mother, this one as her son,

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And said that he had sat in Dido's lap;

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And they from her, whence I beginning take,

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Took the denomination of the star

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That woos the sun, now following, now in front.

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I was not ware of our ascending to it;

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But of our being in it gave full faith

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My Lady whom I saw more beauteous grow.

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And as within a flame a spark is seen,

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And as within a voice a voice discerned,

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When one is steadfast, and one comes and goes,

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Within that light beheld I other lamps

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Move in a circle, speeding more and less,

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Methinks in measure of their inward vision.

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From a cold cloud descended never winds,

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Or visible or not, so rapidly

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They would not laggard and impeded seem

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To any one who had those lights divine

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Seen come towards us, leaving the gyration

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Begun at first in the high Seraphim.

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And behind those that most in front appeared

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Sounded "Osanna!" so that never since

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To hear again was I without desire.

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Then unto us more nearly one approached,

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And it alone began: "We all are ready

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Unto thy pleasure, that thou joy in us.

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We turn around with the celestial Princes,

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One gyre and one gyration and one thirst,

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To whom thou in the world of old didst say,

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'Ye who, intelligent, the third heaven are moving;'

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And are so full of love, to pleasure thee

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A little quiet will not be less sweet."

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After these eyes of mine themselves had offered

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Unto my Lady reverently, and she

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Content and certain of herself had made them,

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Back to the light they turned, which so great promise

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Made of itself, and "Say, who art thou?" was

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My voice, imprinted with a great affection.

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O how and how much I beheld it grow

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With the new joy that superadded was

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Unto its joys, as soon as I had spoken!

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Thus changed, it said to me: "The world possessed me

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Short time below; and, if it had been more,

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Much evil will be which would not have been.

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My gladness keepeth me concealed from thee,

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Which rayeth round about me, and doth hide me

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Like as a creature swathed in its own silk.

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Much didst thou love me, and thou hadst good reason;

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For had I been below, I should have shown thee

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Somewhat beyond the foliage of my love.

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That left-hand margin, which doth bathe itself

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In Rhone, when it is mingled with the Sorgue,

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Me for its lord awaited in due time,

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And that horn of Ausonia, which is towned

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With Bari, with Gaeta and Catona,

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Whence Tronto and Verde in the sea disgorge.

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Already flashed upon my brow the crown

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Of that dominion which the Danube waters

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After the German borders it abandons;

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And beautiful Trinacria, that is murky

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'Twixt Pachino and Peloro, (on the gulf

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Which greatest scath from Eurus doth receive,)

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Not through Typhoeus, but through nascent sulphur,

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Would have awaited her own monarchs still,

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Through me from Charles descended and from Rudolph,

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If evil lordship, that exasperates ever

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The subject populations, had not moved

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Palermo to the outcry of 'Death! death!'

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And if my brother could but this foresee,

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The greedy poverty of Catalonia

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Straight would he flee, that it might not molest him;

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For verily 'tis needful to provide,

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Through him or other, so that on his bark

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Already freighted no more freight be placed.

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His nature, which from liberal covetous

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Descended, such a soldiery would need

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As should not care for hoarding in a chest."

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"Because I do believe the lofty joy

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Thy speech infuses into me, my Lord,

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Where every good thing doth begin and end

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Thou seest as I see it, the more grateful

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Is it to me; and this too hold I dear,

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That gazing upon God thou dost discern it.

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Glad hast thou made me; so make clear to me,

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Since speaking thou hast stirred me up to doubt,

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How from sweet seed can bitter issue forth."

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This I to him; and he to me: "If I

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Can show to thee a truth, to what thou askest

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Thy face thou'lt hold as thou dost hold thy back.

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The Good which all the realm thou art ascending

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Turns and contents, maketh its providence

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To be a power within these bodies vast;

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And not alone the natures are foreseen

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Within the mind that in itself is perfect,

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But they together with their preservation.

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For whatsoever thing this bow shoots forth

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Falls foreordained unto an end foreseen,

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Even as a shaft directed to its mark.

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If that were not, the heaven which thou dost walk

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Would in such manner its effects produce,

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That they no longer would be arts, but ruins.

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This cannot be, if the Intelligences

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That keep these stars in motion are not maimed,

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And maimed the First that has not made them perfect.

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Wilt thou this truth have clearer made to thee?"

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And I: "Not so; for 'tis impossible

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That nature tire, I see, in what is needful."

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Whence he again: "Now say, would it be worse

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For men on earth were they not citizens?"

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"Yes," I replied; "and here I ask no reason."

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"And can they be so, if below they live not

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Diversely unto offices diverse?

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No, if your master writeth well for you."

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So came he with deductions to this point;

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Then he concluded: "Therefore it behoves

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The roots of your effects to be diverse.

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Hence one is Solon born, another Xerxes,

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Another Melchisedec, and another he

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Who, flying through the air, his son did lose.

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Revolving Nature, which a signet is

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To mortal wax, doth practise well her art,

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But not one inn distinguish from another;

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Thence happens it that Esau differeth

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In seed from Jacob; and Quirinus comes

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From sire so vile that he is given to Mars.

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A generated nature its own way

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Would always make like its progenitors,

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If Providence divine were not triumphant.

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Now that which was behind thee is before thee;

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But that thou know that I with thee am pleased,

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With a corollary will I mantle thee.

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Evermore nature, if it fortune find

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Discordant to it, like each other seed

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Out of its region, maketh evil thrift;

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And if the world below would fix its mind

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On the foundation which is laid by nature,

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Pursuing that, 'twould have the people good.

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But you unto religion wrench aside

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Him who was born to gird him with the sword,

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And make a king of him who is for sermons;

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Therefore your footsteps wander from the road."

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